Newsy Tonight With Chance Seales - Tom Warrick
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allies for serious and heavy weapons to counter Russia's attacks.
>> To help us better understand tonight, the current situation in eastern Ukraine going forward, Russia strategy. I'm joined by Tom Ward, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council with an extensive background in foreign affairs, including counterterrorism at the Department of Homeland Security and with the Office of War Crimes issues at the Department of State. Tom Phase 2 of this war is underway in the Russian playbook. It seems on its face, fairly straightforward. Just I guess, around eastern Ukraine. Is that what we're seeing?
>> And are trying to do is to surround Ukrainian forces in eastern Ukraine and if they can defeat those forces, then they'll be able to turn them for running their armies against central Ukraine in the capital. But if they fail, then it will be a strategic defeat for Moscow.
>> Really? So you think their designs are still on Kiev on Lviv?
>> They say they still want to
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defeat Korean government to make Ukraine into a vassal state or a part Putin's teams are are still fighting and vicious his willingness to in Ukrainian state and many of its people is one of the thingsally has a lot of people in Western concern.
>> Do you have any idea to the links to which he go to achieve
>> There's a lot fear that he has already committed to widespread atrocities against civilian populations. We've seen brutal pictures of the destruction that his forces every on what are surely civilian targets around is indiscriminate shelling his killing of civilians and violations the Geneva Conventions to his own party. These show that he's willing to vote for a Sinn order trying be taking grain for what he believes is his. It's historic to determine what
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grade
>> I see. So the next few weeks truly are critical with that in mind, Ukraine just kind fighter planes from the U.S. New parts for it. Supplies have been pouring in from around the world, including my understanding is some heavy equipment would think we're asking for. Do they have any chance of holding the territory?
>> One of the things that happened early on the war was that underestimated the strength and resilience of Ukrainian soldiers and their willingness to fight hard for their home. The intangibles turned out to be decisive in the battle for 2 Russians are simply not up to military challenge what everyone thinks now is that the Russian forces are better led by general who was responsible for forces that committed atrocities in Syria. And that they're using the playbook for how they destroyed across and other parts what was the former Soviet Union under leadership
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before. And so there really is the concern that there is almost nothing a lot in order to try take Ukraine. And so that will come down to how fast the West can get military assistance to Ukrainian forces that they can hold au destruction on school.
>> With that in mind, we've been hearing authorities in Ukraine say if you are living in the dumbest, get out, if you can. And we've seen reports of Ukrainians are fleeing into Russia for I guess you can call it safety. But I don't know if they're safe. That's their only option. What is life going to be like for those people?
>> That actually is very much a concern. Given the statements we've seen out other Russian leaders, interest in trying to get race Ukraine as a culture really does give us concerns what will happen now. Many of the people who haven't are Russian speakers and might be able to assimilate into But it's very clear that what Russia is doing is more than just trying
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to achieve a military victory. It is trying race Ukrainian culture in a way that really does give us harbingers of acts of genocide in Europe. I'm going back to the 1940's even some former Yugoslavia. And we really you wonder if the the limit as far as is concerned. Tom Work.
>> We appreciate your insight.
>> To help us better understand tonight, the current situation in eastern Ukraine going forward, Russia strategy. I'm joined by Tom Ward, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council with an extensive background in foreign affairs, including counterterrorism at the Department of Homeland Security and with the Office of War Crimes issues at the Department of State. Tom Phase 2 of this war is underway in the Russian playbook. It seems on its face, fairly straightforward. Just I guess, around eastern Ukraine. Is that what we're seeing?
>> And are trying to do is to surround Ukrainian forces in eastern Ukraine and if they can defeat those forces, then they'll be able to turn them for running their armies against central Ukraine in the capital. But if they fail, then it will be a strategic defeat for Moscow.
>> Really? So you think their designs are still on Kiev on Lviv?
>> They say they still want to
00:01:00
defeat Korean government to make Ukraine into a vassal state or a part Putin's teams are are still fighting and vicious his willingness to in Ukrainian state and many of its people is one of the thingsally has a lot of people in Western concern.
>> Do you have any idea to the links to which he go to achieve
>> There's a lot fear that he has already committed to widespread atrocities against civilian populations. We've seen brutal pictures of the destruction that his forces every on what are surely civilian targets around is indiscriminate shelling his killing of civilians and violations the Geneva Conventions to his own party. These show that he's willing to vote for a Sinn order trying be taking grain for what he believes is his. It's historic to determine what
00:02:00
grade
>> I see. So the next few weeks truly are critical with that in mind, Ukraine just kind fighter planes from the U.S. New parts for it. Supplies have been pouring in from around the world, including my understanding is some heavy equipment would think we're asking for. Do they have any chance of holding the territory?
>> One of the things that happened early on the war was that underestimated the strength and resilience of Ukrainian soldiers and their willingness to fight hard for their home. The intangibles turned out to be decisive in the battle for 2 Russians are simply not up to military challenge what everyone thinks now is that the Russian forces are better led by general who was responsible for forces that committed atrocities in Syria. And that they're using the playbook for how they destroyed across and other parts what was the former Soviet Union under leadership
00:03:00
before. And so there really is the concern that there is almost nothing a lot in order to try take Ukraine. And so that will come down to how fast the West can get military assistance to Ukrainian forces that they can hold au destruction on school.
>> With that in mind, we've been hearing authorities in Ukraine say if you are living in the dumbest, get out, if you can. And we've seen reports of Ukrainians are fleeing into Russia for I guess you can call it safety. But I don't know if they're safe. That's their only option. What is life going to be like for those people?
>> That actually is very much a concern. Given the statements we've seen out other Russian leaders, interest in trying to get race Ukraine as a culture really does give us concerns what will happen now. Many of the people who haven't are Russian speakers and might be able to assimilate into But it's very clear that what Russia is doing is more than just trying
00:04:00
to achieve a military victory. It is trying race Ukrainian culture in a way that really does give us harbingers of acts of genocide in Europe. I'm going back to the 1940's even some former Yugoslavia. And we really you wonder if the the limit as far as is concerned. Tom Work.
>> We appreciate your insight.
Newsy Tonight With Chance Seales - Tom Warrick
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